Discussion:
PROBLEMS WITH CAVERJECT?
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AL SMITH
2003-11-27 06:51:59 UTC
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I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing my Uro on
Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject (Impulse kit 20ml) was
used 12 times in the past 2 months...7 times it worked great with rock
hard erections lasting from 1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO
long!)... WHY it didn't work the other 5 times I would love to know?

I don't think it was "Performance Anxiety", which is what I thought at
first as 3 of my 5 failures( I mean NO reaction even with "excellently
applied" physical stimulation) were with one girl who I REALLY wanted
to have intercourse with..BUT, NO GO..and IF I got a bit hard a few
times with oral stimulation...any attempt to enter her vagina resulted
in an "instant noodle"

I then tried a "dry run", so-to-speak, by injecting myself with no
female present...15ml had NO effect whatsoever!!!

The dosages didn't seem to make much difference in whether or not I
got/maintained an erection, running from 5ml to the max 20ml.

I am truly disappointed in these results...many posts here indicate
the "sure thing" nature of the injectables? I know Jerry has also
noted that the penile injections can be affected by outside things
like your overall health or "performance anxiety" BUT, I am otherwise
healthy and my "masturbation" test seems to rule out the latter
cause..

I thought perhaps that I was injecting improperly sometimes,but I have
been VERY careful to "tease" my penis to plump it up before injecting
in the way and in the places noted on the "Patient's Instructions" I
got with the kits.

I am going to try "Tri-Mix" and hopefully will have more consistent
success with that...are there any of you who had problems similar to
mine with Caverjects' efficacy and then found that Tri-Mix was
effective more often than Caverject?

I am getting really depressed again...I thought I had found the answer
to my ED of over 40 years duration in Caverject and now it doesn't
work almost half the time?

Any advise or help would be MUCH appreciated

Al
Jerry Sturdivant
2003-11-27 15:30:10 UTC
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Post by AL SMITH
I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing
my Uro on Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject
(Impulse kit 20ml) was used 12 times in the past 2 months...7
times it worked great with rock hard erections lasting from
1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO long!)... WHY it didn't
work the other 5 times I would love to know?
I've never tried Caverject and I don't know what to tell you about the
unsuccessful shots. To get absolutely no reaction sounds like bad batches.
Even a bad shot or a shot 'off center' will at least get you plump.

I'm presuming you've read about what not to do, like too much coffee and all
that. At least with the trimix you will be using from the same batch when
you load your needle. Let us know how it works out.

Jerry of ASI
Decker Eastman
2003-11-28 00:54:47 UTC
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I have found that occasionally the Caverject would not work for me. I think
it had to do with what area of the penis the solution was injected into.
For
example, if the solution ended up in the urethra instead of the spongy
tissue,
then you would get poor results. I could usually tell when the injection
was
off its mark, because my penis would swell a little, but not really get
hard.
It doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. I don't know if that is
why you are having mixed results, but that is what I think happened to me.

-Decker
Post by AL SMITH
I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing my Uro on
Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject (Impulse kit 20ml) was
used 12 times in the past 2 months...7 times it worked great with rock
hard erections lasting from 1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO
long!)... WHY it didn't work the other 5 times I would love to know?
I don't think it was "Performance Anxiety", which is what I thought at
first as 3 of my 5 failures( I mean NO reaction even with "excellently
applied" physical stimulation) were with one girl who I REALLY wanted
to have intercourse with..BUT, NO GO..and IF I got a bit hard a few
times with oral stimulation...any attempt to enter her vagina resulted
in an "instant noodle"
I then tried a "dry run", so-to-speak, by injecting myself with no
female present...15ml had NO effect whatsoever!!!
The dosages didn't seem to make much difference in whether or not I
got/maintained an erection, running from 5ml to the max 20ml.
I am truly disappointed in these results...many posts here indicate
the "sure thing" nature of the injectables? I know Jerry has also
noted that the penile injections can be affected by outside things
like your overall health or "performance anxiety" BUT, I am otherwise
healthy and my "masturbation" test seems to rule out the latter
cause..
I thought perhaps that I was injecting improperly sometimes,but I have
been VERY careful to "tease" my penis to plump it up before injecting
in the way and in the places noted on the "Patient's Instructions" I
got with the kits.
I am going to try "Tri-Mix" and hopefully will have more consistent
success with that...are there any of you who had problems similar to
mine with Caverjects' efficacy and then found that Tri-Mix was
effective more often than Caverject?
I am getting really depressed again...I thought I had found the answer
to my ED of over 40 years duration in Caverject and now it doesn't
work almost half the time?
Any advise or help would be MUCH appreciated
Al
sunnyway
2003-11-29 17:47:04 UTC
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Wanted to agree with comment on the "target" area. I have found that the
needles are long enough to pass through the spongy tissue and into the
Urethra. The results were just as you described. My urologist has
injected me with the same "missed" results. He then tested me with a
penile Doppler and observed increased blood flow with an equally
increased venus loss. When I injected by myself I just assumed that I
had missed the "target" area, with the doctor doing the injection, and
then immediately able to test for blood flow in and out that disproved
my theory. With the discovery of venus leakage, he now has me trying the
"pump."
Lou
Post by Decker Eastman
I have found that occasionally the Caverject would not work for me. I think
it had to do with what area of the penis the solution was injected into.
For
example, if the solution ended up in the urethra instead of the spongy
tissue,
then you would get poor results. I could usually tell when the injection
was
off its mark, because my penis would swell a little, but not really get
hard.
It doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. I don't know if that is
why you are having mixed results, but that is what I think happened to me.
-Decker
Post by AL SMITH
I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing my Uro on
Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject (Impulse kit 20ml) was
used 12 times in the past 2 months...7 times it worked great with rock
hard erections lasting from 1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO
long!)... WHY it didn't work the other 5 times I would love to know?
I don't think it was "Performance Anxiety", which is what I thought at
first as 3 of my 5 failures( I mean NO reaction even with "excellently
applied" physical stimulation) were with one girl who I REALLY wanted
to have intercourse with..BUT, NO GO..and IF I got a bit hard a few
times with oral stimulation...any attempt to enter her vagina resulted
in an "instant noodle"
I then tried a "dry run", so-to-speak, by injecting myself with no
female present...15ml had NO effect whatsoever!!!
The dosages didn't seem to make much difference in whether or not I
got/maintained an erection, running from 5ml to the max 20ml.
I am truly disappointed in these results...many posts here indicate
the "sure thing" nature of the injectables? I know Jerry has also
noted that the penile injections can be affected by outside things
like your overall health or "performance anxiety" BUT, I am otherwise
healthy and my "masturbation" test seems to rule out the latter
cause..
I thought perhaps that I was injecting improperly sometimes,but I have
been VERY careful to "tease" my penis to plump it up before injecting
in the way and in the places noted on the "Patient's Instructions" I
got with the kits.
I am going to try "Tri-Mix" and hopefully will have more consistent
success with that...are there any of you who had problems similar to
mine with Caverjects' efficacy and then found that Tri-Mix was
effective more often than Caverject?
I am getting really depressed again...I thought I had found the answer
to my ED of over 40 years duration in Caverject and now it doesn't
work almost half the time?
Any advise or help would be MUCH appreciated
Al
.
2003-12-02 02:05:01 UTC
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I've had the problem of Caverject not working or not being very
effective.
Two points I found.
1.Inject in the side of the penis as close as possible to the abdomen.
2.Although I have managed to go into the urethra once (it felt like a
trickle of cold pee inside), don't be afraid to push the needle in right
up to the plastic part.
--
Ox
Ernie
2003-12-02 01:25:59 UTC
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Hi,

This may sound like old news but I'll say it again.

When you tease the penis to plump it up, squeeze the blood forward enlarging
the injection site to erect diameter. Bury the needle as it has to go thru
nearly 1/4 inch think wall to get into the cavity.

When the penis is flacid or nearly so, it is easy to unload the syringe in
the lining or even on the other side under the skin.

When the diameter is full erection diameter the needle ends in the cavity
for sure and there is no emotional involvment with the success of an
injection. There is an effect of the hardness once you become erect. Teasing
and foreplay definitely are good for hardness.

ernestnolan
Post by AL SMITH
I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing my Uro on
Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject (Impulse kit 20ml) was
used 12 times in the past 2 months...7 times it worked great with rock
hard erections lasting from 1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO
long!)... WHY it didn't work the other 5 times I would love to know?
I don't think it was "Performance Anxiety", which is what I thought at
first as 3 of my 5 failures( I mean NO reaction even with "excellently
applied" physical stimulation) were with one girl who I REALLY wanted
to have intercourse with..BUT, NO GO..and IF I got a bit hard a few
times with oral stimulation...any attempt to enter her vagina resulted
in an "instant noodle"
I then tried a "dry run", so-to-speak, by injecting myself with no
female present...15ml had NO effect whatsoever!!!
The dosages didn't seem to make much difference in whether or not I
got/maintained an erection, running from 5ml to the max 20ml.
I am truly disappointed in these results...many posts here indicate
the "sure thing" nature of the injectables? I know Jerry has also
noted that the penile injections can be affected by outside things
like your overall health or "performance anxiety" BUT, I am otherwise
healthy and my "masturbation" test seems to rule out the latter
cause..
I thought perhaps that I was injecting improperly sometimes,but I have
been VERY careful to "tease" my penis to plump it up before injecting
in the way and in the places noted on the "Patient's Instructions" I
got with the kits.
I am going to try "Tri-Mix" and hopefully will have more consistent
success with that...are there any of you who had problems similar to
mine with Caverjects' efficacy and then found that Tri-Mix was
effective more often than Caverject?
I am getting really depressed again...I thought I had found the answer
to my ED of over 40 years duration in Caverject and now it doesn't
work almost half the time?
Any advise or help would be MUCH appreciated
Al
m***@yahoo.com
2014-03-16 23:07:15 UTC
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Post by AL SMITH
I have had off and on success with Caverject and am seeing my Uro on
Monday to get a script for Tri-Mix. The C-ject (Impulse kit 20ml) was
used 12 times in the past 2 months...7 times it worked great with rock
hard erections lasting from 1 hr to 3.5 hrs (that one was TOO
long!)... WHY it didn't work the other 5 times I would love to know?
I don't think it was "Performance Anxiety", which is what I thought at
first as 3 of my 5 failures( I mean NO reaction even with "excellently
applied" physical stimulation) were with one girl who I REALLY wanted
to have intercourse with..BUT, NO GO..and IF I got a bit hard a few
times with oral stimulation...any attempt to enter her vagina resulted
in an "instant noodle"
I then tried a "dry run", so-to-speak, by injecting myself with no
female present...15ml had NO effect whatsoever!!!
The dosages didn't seem to make much difference in whether or not I
got/maintained an erection, running from 5ml to the max 20ml.
I am truly disappointed in these results...many posts here indicate
the "sure thing" nature of the injectables? I know Jerry has also
noted that the penile injections can be affected by outside things
like your overall health or "performance anxiety" BUT, I am otherwise
healthy and my "masturbation" test seems to rule out the latter
cause..
I thought perhaps that I was injecting improperly sometimes,but I have
been VERY careful to "tease" my penis to plump it up before injecting
in the way and in the places noted on the "Patient's Instructions" I
got with the kits.
I am going to try "Tri-Mix" and hopefully will have more consistent
success with that...are there any of you who had problems similar to
mine with Caverjects' efficacy and then found that Tri-Mix was
effective more often than Caverject?
I am getting really depressed again...I thought I had found the answer
to my ED of over 40 years duration in Caverject and now it doesn't
work almost half the time?
Any advise or help would be MUCH appreciated
Al
I have been using Caverject for the past 3 year. similar problems. Sometime it works and sometimes it does not. I have talked to the manufacturer in Australia. They blamed me for it!!! However, knowing about science and a little about chemistry I have reached some conclusions that the times the injections did not work must be related to the failure of chemical itself. If I am entitled to my own opinion, the following can be looked at seriously.

Assuming that nothing went wrong in the first place at the manufacturing, we can question the following.

1- Fact: The writing on the box of Caverjects says that it must be kept below 25deg C.
2- Fact : Temperature degrades or may even break the chemical down to something else (dangerous??)) . Therefore, warning on temperature by manufacturer is on the box.

Now questions:

1- Who can guarantee that the medicine is kept under 25Deg C at all time from manufacturing to reaching the end-user?
for example,

1-are the warehouse is always under 25 Deg C when the product is just made and transferred to the warehouse?

2- When loading into containers for distribution, what is the temperature outside and inside the container?

3 - Is the container temperature controlled during the tranportatio?

4- On reaching the destination , is the receiving warehouse temperature controlled?

5- From the second warehouse to the chemist shop, is the process of transmportation temperature controlled making sure it is below 25 degrees?

6- Is the chemist shop warehouse is below 25 deg C.

7- What is the accuracy of temperature dependency of the medicine. Meaning that , would the medicine survive at all temperature upto 25Deg C or as the temperature approaches 25Dec from say 20 Deg C the medicine starts the degradation slowly such that in time x% of it will be destroyed?

8 What does happen at 25Deg C exactly?

9 - What does happen at temperature above 25Deg C and below 35Deg C , or in the hot days if it did happen?

I live in Australia. I took these questions once with the manufacturer , they did not want to hear it!!
I have purchased the medicine from 5 different chemists in the past 3 years and occasionally have run into this problem in some batches.
Just now I ma having the same issue with the fifth chemist who has been much more cooperative in believing my claim than the others.
However, what surprises me is the manufacturer who does not wish to know of the problem. This is the health of people that we are talking about.
Fro example, what do you expect to happen to you if the chemical is no longer what is supposed to be and you are injecting yourself with?!!
What is the outcome of the chemical degradation if it became subject to higher temperature than 25Deg C?
What are the side effects?

You can think more and more and come up with more questions?
I am surprised at the manufacturer that did not wish to receive FREE feedback which not only helps them with the product quality hence more sales. But with people health which is above all.
I cannot believe it.
g***@gmail.com
2015-08-23 08:59:55 UTC
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I'm having the same problems. Doesn't always work and I inject the same way each time. When it doesn't work I have noticed that it stings when the needle goes in. That's even after deafening the area.
Any thoughts
DoubleOwSeven
2015-08-24 00:03:27 UTC
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Post by g***@gmail.com
I'm having the same problems. Doesn't always work and I inject the same way each time. When it doesn't work I have noticed that it stings when the needle goes in. That's even after deafening the area.
Any thoughts
Only thing I can think to suggest is to inject "higher or lower" in
terms of the hands of the clock. If you are injecting at 9 o'clock
try 10 o'clock (higher up). I assume you switch from one side to the
other with each use, 9 o'clock today, 3 o'clock the next time.
Fred Fuerte
2016-07-30 10:02:00 UTC
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I though Caverject was the answer to my problems. First dose was 5mcg resulting in a modest erection. Second dose was 10mcg resulting in a boner I hadn't seen for years, a bit too strong!!! Settled on 7.5mcg, good. Used this dose twice with good results and then.... same dose but no reaction. Slight warmth and swelling but no erection. Thought maybe I'd managed to do the injection wrong but it seemed to go as on previous times. Extra special care the next time but again little or no response, this time to 10mcg which previously caused a very strong erection.
Has it "gone off", it is Summer but it's stored in a cool place and I don't think it's exceeded 25C or have I become resistant to it.
t***@gmail.com
2017-05-24 01:36:15 UTC
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My issues are the same. It use to work fine for me when I started occasionally using it 5 years ago. I used it only about one per month. 2.5mcg hardly worked, but 5mcg was terrific. I had consistent results once I found the best places to inject.

Then the results sharply diminished to the point where it doesn't really do more than produce some mild increased size. I tried up to 10 mcg and also tried other injection sites but with no success. I also purchased a different batch with different use-by dates from a different pharmacy, but this didn't help.

Not sure what my next course of action is. I just don't understand why it use to work OK, and now doesn't work at all.
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